Interview mit Rachel Podger

Rachel Podger
Rachel Podger

Lesson time: (8min 53sec)

In dieser Online-Lektion für Barockvioline und -cello spricht Rachel Podger über Artikulation, Verzierung, Interpretation und die Instrumente selbst.

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Differences Between Period and Baroque String Instruments

When we talk about period or Baroque string instruments, what's the difference?

Overview of Differences

There are lots of differences, of course:

  • Structural differences
  • Musical differences in interpretation
  • Historical performance practice

These elements need to be assimilated and understood in order to perform the music in a historically knowledgeable way.

Structural Differences

I happen to have a Brock violin here. The most obvious difference is that:

  • Gut Strings: They are purely gut and not wound at all. The G string, on a modern violin, is a wound string. Some players do play with pure gut, but it can be quite difficult to make a good sound on the G string. However, this is personal taste.

Importance of Gut Strings

  • Gut D String: It's a very thick string and makes the most wonderful, gutsy sound.
  • Sound Ideal: The sound ideal is very different from a modern instrument. It's more mellow because the string is porous, as there's no covering of aluminum.

You can delve into the string with the bow, which is one of the main differences between playing with modern strings versus gut strings. This is something you learn quickly; to make a good sound, you need to get into the string.

Baroque Bow

The Baroque bow has a different shape:

  • Shorter and light at the tip, which enables you to get into the string effectively at the beginning of the stroke on a down bow.
  • The bow tapers naturally, impacting articulation.

Technical Considerations

Some technical aspects that differ from modern playing include:

  • A slightly lower elbow position
  • Flexibility in the fingers to achieve nuance in articulation

Articulation is crucial for phrasing in Baroque music; there's a lot of emphasis on different types of articulation.

Extemporizing and Ornamentation

Another important aspect is extemporizing and ornamentation. Personally, this excited me most when I started playing music from the 17th and 18th centuries. Once you know the language of the time, you can interpret the music with a sense of freedom, as long as you follow the harmonic and grammatical structure.

Transitioning from Modern to Baroque Instruments

As a student who can play the modern violin quite well, if you take up a Baroque violin, what problems might you face?

Challenges in Adaptation

  • Sound Production: It's quite difficult to produce the expected sound when first using a bow of this shape, primarily due to the nature of the strings.
  • Bow Technique: The bow may lift off at the end because it's quite light, and you might go beyond the bow's length since it's shorter.
  • Relaxation: Any tension in your upper arm, right arm, or hand will show immediately. Playing these strings is akin to being naked; you must be relaxed and understand how to manipulate them effectively.

Adjusting Posture

  • The neck on a Baroque instrument is thinner, and its angle to the body is different, causing it to emerge straight from the instrument. In contrast, modern instruments have an angled neck.

  • This affects how you hold the instrument; the posture is more integrated with your body, rather than extended outward.

Baroque Cello Considerations

Does the same apply to the Baroque cello?

Similarities and Differences

  • The neck of the Baroque cello is also thicker with a different angle.
  • The biggest difference is that there is no spike, the posture of the instrument is more upright. With a modern cello, the instrument leans more due to the spike being used for stability.

Bowing Techniques and Sound Release

When it comes to technique:

  • The Baroque cello bow is heavier and larger. The emphasis on getting into the string is very important, as well as the front of the note.

  • Sound Release: This goes along with the musical shape. For example, when you have a strong emphasis on a dissonance, you should release it on the consonant chord. The bow can emphasize this, allowing you to highlight different strong points in a phrase.

Playing Modern Instruments in Baroque Style

For those wanting to play in the right style but on a modern instrument, where should they start?

Recommendations

  • Try a Baroque Bow: It's a good idea to try a Baroque bow even if you're not playing with gut strings. It significantly changes how you approach phrases.

Observations to Note

  • You'll notice that the bow won't sustain as much unless pressed hard, but if you go with the flow and get into the string, it will come away naturally.

  • Shortened Notes: Shortened and lifted notes become much easier with this kind of bow.

Additional Considerations

  • The Baroque bridge, which has a flatter shape, makes executing chords and arpeggiation easier.

  • Articulation: Understanding articulation is key, recognize the hierarchy of the phrase and the hierarchy of units.

  • For instance, in a 4/4 bar, you would typically have:

    • A strong beat on 1
    • Less on 2, a little more on 3, and less on 4.

By following these rules, everything makes much more sense.

About the instructor

Rachel Podger
Rachel Podger

Rachel Podger ist eines der kreativsten Talente, die auf dem Gebiet der historischen Aufführungspraxis hervorgetreten sind. In den vergangenen zwei Jahrzehnten hat sie sich als führende Interpretin der Musik des Barock und der Klassik etabliert, mit zahlreichen Aufnahmen, die von der Musik des frühen 17. Jahrhunderts bis zu Mozart reichen. Sie wurde in Deutschland und in England an der Guildhall School of Music and Drama ausgebildet, wo sie bei David Takeno und Micaela Comberti studierte. Nach Anfängen mit The Palladian Ensemble und Florilegium war sie von 1997 bis 2002 Konzertmeisterin von The English Concert. 2004 begann Rachel eine Gastleitung beim Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment und tourte durch Europa und die USA. Ein Höhepunkt dieser Zusammenarbeit war ein im Fernsehen übertragenes Konzert bei den BBC Proms 2007. 2009 entstand eine Aufnahme von Mozarts Sinfonia Concertante mit dem Bratschisten Pavlo Beznosiuk, zusammen mit zwei Violinkonzerten von Haydn. Über die Jahre hat Rachel zahlreiche Kooperationen mit Orchestern in aller Welt genossen; ihr besonders am Herzen liegende Projekte umfassten jene mit Arte dei Suonatori (Polen), Musica Angelica und Santa Fe Pro Musica (USA), der Academy of Ancient Music, der European Union Baroque Orchestra und der Holland Baroque Society. In ihrem MusicGurus-Kurs über Bachs Werke für Violine und Violoncello solo erschließt Rachel dieses grundlegende Repertoire und teilt, wie sie es angeht, und hilft dir, stilistisches Verständnis, Phrasierung und barocke Sensibilität in dein eigenes Bach-Spiel einzubringen. Fotocredit: Jonas Sacks read more

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