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Allegro - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Karim Said

In this lesson, Karim Said directs the orchestra, receiving feedback and advice from Bernard Haitink. Listen and learn from the master himself.
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    • 01. Bernard Haitnik introduction

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      1:28

    • 02. Allegro Con Brio - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Thomas Blunt

      5:54

    • 03. Allegro Con Brio - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Leo McFall

      9:35

    • 04. Allegro Con Brio - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Timothy Henty

      19:49

    • 05. Allegro Con Brio - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Karim Said

      10:54

    • 06. Allegro Con Brio - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Michael Young

      15:03

    • 07. Andante - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Timothy Henty

      18:49

    • 08. Andante - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Michael Young

      20:20

    • 09. Poco Allegretto - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Anne-Marie Granau

      21:37

    • 10. Poco Allegretto - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Leo McFall

      7:02

    • 11. Allegro - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Leo McFall

      10:10

    • 12. Allegro - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Karim Said

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    • 13. Allegro - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Thomas Blunt

      24:02

    • 14. Allegro - Bernard Haitnik gives his anaklysis and feedback to Anne-Marie hGranau

      29:48

Lesson transcript

Music Lesson


Instructor:

My fault. Very sorry. No, it was not very good. My fault. I said very sorry.

No, no, no. This was not together at all.

Very funny.

Discussion of Dynamics:

  • In the beginning, you give that, but it's sort of...

    And then:
    Pom, pom, pom, pom, yum, pom, pom, pom.

    That was good.

But then it gets louder and louder there. They think, "Well, you're not looking at us well, we play out."

Keep a check on them. Yes.

The more you play, the more there's a danger the piano will not be there.

So, do it once more.

I also forgot trombone. Very sorry. He will not hold it against you. With a bit of luck, once more.

Encouragement:

Yeah, okay, Karim, I'm sure you can.

And you want to have more pianist, more soto voce.

Questioning Techniques:

Yes. So, how?

Get something out of your box of ideas.

Yeah, but the danger is when you want it more pianissimo, that it also becomes slower.

So that's always one of the eternal problems of the conductor.

How can I get really pianissimo, but in tempo?

Feedback on Tempo:

Okay, okay, Karim.

Okay, good, good.

But it's getting slower and slower.

Yeah, getting slower.

Yeah. And you don't want that, or do you want it a little bit?

I want a little bit of space before the.

And then you can pick up.

Yeah, okay. The ones were the beginning.

Final Thoughts:

Okay. And I will keep my mouth shut.

Yeah, no, no, no, no. I'll keep my mouth shut.

It's a bit too slow. I need to...

Well, yes, yes, yes.

So it's very good in many ways, but sometimes you do things that I think, "My goodness, how can they keep it together?"

Because you are so busy, and you want everything, and I know you have it here.

It comes through and it's very impressive.

Oh, yeah.

But maybe I'm your most critical admirer.

Yeah, you do very well.

But you have to discipline yourself, and I'm sure you will do, because you are clever enough.

Concluding Remarks:

So, end of the slow.

Furtw?ngler could do that at the end of his life.

But when you start as a young man already with that, how slow will you be at the end of your life?

I would keep it a bit more in a classic shape.

Movement Insights:

The whole movement is from here?

No, the poco sostenuto is becoming a molto sostenuto.

And I found the beginning dangerously slow too.

But okay, that's a Lego.

It's not a Lego comrio that I buy from you. I mean, if that's your...

If you're convinced about that.

But in the fortissimo, keep a little bit more energy for yourself because you are so.

You are attacking them, and there's a danger that you lose the rhythm.

Yeah.

Okay. Well done.

Thank you.

Thank you.

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With an international conducting career that has spanned more than five decades, Amsterdam-born Bernard Haitink is one of today's most celebrated conductors.

Appointed Principal Conductor of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra from the beginning of the 2006-7 season, he has led many of the world's major orchestras, including more than 25 years at the helm of the Royal Concertgebouw as its music director. In addition, Mr Haitink has previously held posts as music director of the Dresden Staatskapelle, the Royal Opera, Covent Garden, Glyndebourne Festival Opera, and the London Philharmonic. He is Conductor Laureate of the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Conductor Emeritus of the Boston Symphony Orchestra, and an honorary member of the Berlin Philharmonic. He has made frequent guest appearances with the Berlin Philharmonic, Vienna Philharmonic, Bavarian Radio, London Symphony and other leading orchestras.

Mr Haitink has recorded widely for the Phillips, Decca and EMI labels, including complete cycles of Mahler, Bruckner, and Schumann symphonies with the Concertgebouw and extensive repertoire with the Berlin and Vienna Philharmonic orchestras and the Boston Symphony Orchestra. His most recent recordings are the complete Brahms and Beethoven symphonies with the London Symphony Orchestra on the LSO Live label. His discography also includes many opera recordings with the Royal Opera and Glyndebourne, as well as with the Bavarian Radio Orchestra and Dresden Staatskapelle. Mr Haitink's recording of Janacek's Jenufa with the orchestra, soloists, and chorus of the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden received a Grammy Award for best opera recording in 2004.

Mr Haitink has received many international awards in recognition of his services to music, including both an honorary Knighthood and the Companion of Honour in the United Kingdom, and the House Order of Orange-Nassau in the Netherlands. He was named Musical America's "Musician of the Year" for 2007.

In his MusicGurus course on Brahms' Symphony No. 3, Haitink draws on that lifetime at the podium to take you deep inside the score - how he shapes its phrasing, balance, tempo and structure - offering rare insight into how one of the great conductors reads and brings a Brahms symphony to life, whether you are a conductor, an orchestral player or a passionate listener.

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