No. 10 analysis, explanation, demonstration with Joanna McGregor

Joanna MacGregor
Joanna MacGregor

Lesson time: (27min 52sec)

In this lesson, Joanna McGregor works with Ji Liu on Messiaen's Vingt Regards sur L'Enfant-Jesus, No.10.

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Lesson transcript:

Music Lesson

Instructor: How do you feel? I was thinking halfway through, you must be very tired, because, I mean, just doing it, you know, once is enough. It's very good. You play it very, very well. Very, very well. So I think you play it extremely well.

Feedback on Sound and Technique:

  • I don't have any sort of major criticism or anything, but I am going to make some suggestions about your whole sound at the piano.
  • Now, this isn't a very easy piano to make a big sound.
  • I felt your sound was a little tight and constricted, and I was watching how you play.

Suggestions for Improvement:

  • One of the things you might do now, you've got a piece and you've got great command of the notes and the technique and everything.
  • You might think about the largeness of the sound that you're making.
  • I notice your opening was like that, but it is marked forte. You need to have a slightly bigger sound at times.
  • What I feel is that you're very accurate; you're playing highly accurately. However, one of the things you sacrificed is volume in order to achieve that accuracy.

Playing Technique:

  • I can see that you're physically making the shapes, but try to:
    • Concentrate on the sound.
    • If necessary, drop the speed a bit and focus on the sound I'm talking about.
  • When you play this opening, try and feel as though you're swinging.

Encouragement:

  • All of this should be quite loose and free in order to get the sound to flow out.
  • Shake the sound out rather than having to force it.
  • Just keep it relaxed, this here. That's it. That's a good sound.

Working with Dynamics:

  • Now, with these, the way Messian's divided them, don't play them individually.
  • I need to hear more of the fours and the twos and the threes.
  • Drop the staccato slightly and focus on picking it up naturally.

Returning to Original Speed:

  • I wonder if we can go back to your original speed while keeping some of that depth of sound.
  • Try not to overemphasize every single note.
  • It should project a ferocious sound and writing style.

Personal Preference:

  • I'd actually prefer something that sounds more vibrant.
  • I like that sound because it conveys seriousness in the playing.
  • It's more work for you, but if you concentrate on keeping relaxed, it shouldn't feel so hard.

Playing with Phrasing:

  • When you have big phrases, think of a huge phrase mark above each thing.
  • Try to maintain long lines rather than playing each note individually.

Messian's Masterclass:

  • I do remember seeing Messian and his wife give a masterclass on this.
  • They emphasized these chords should shine and have a romantic sound.

Using Pedal:

  • Don't play so fast that it's merely digital, think of it as written by Rachmaninoff.
  • Use pedal underneath to make it sound more luminous.

Practicing Difficult Sections:

  • For the difficult middle section, think a little bit jazzier.
  • Focus on rhythm; don't worry about speed.

Tips for Practicing:

  • Show me how you practice this passage. What would you do?
  • Practice slowly and softly.
  • You need to make more of the grace notes; they are important.

Rhythm and Phrasing:

  • It's essential to allow the detail to come out rather than just hammering through the notes.
  • Explore the contrasts in the music to keep it lively and interesting.

Final Thoughts:

  • When programming this movement for recitals, think about how it will be received by the audience.
  • If it's too dense and complex, consider pairing it with quieter pieces to help the audience digest it.
  • Recommendation: Don't play this as an encore; it needs to be presented thoughtfully.

Conclusion:

  • Well done, thank you!

About the instructor

Joanna MacGregor
Joanna MacGregor

Joanna MacGregor is one of the most wide-ranging and innovative musicians around, with a career spent connecting genres and defying easy categorisation. She has appeared in over sixty countries, performing with many of the world's great orchestras (including the New York Philharmonic, the London and Sydney Symphony Orchestras, Netherlands Radio, the Oslo Philharmonic and the Chicago Symphony Orchestra) and under eminent conductors such as Boulez, Davis and Rattle. Along the way she has premiered several landmark compositions, collaborated with leading jazz and pop artists from South African jazz to cutting-edge electronica, and devised multimedia projects that have toured internationally. Joanna made her conducting debut in 2002 and regularly directs her own orchestral projects. She enjoyed a close artistic partnership as conductor and performer with the Britten Sinfonia, with whom she toured South America and created the acclaimed Moondog/Art of Fugue project - a radical re-working of Bach's late masterpiece alongside the music of the famous 1950s New York street musician, released as 'Sidewalk Dances'. Her album 'Play', on her own record label SoundCircus, received a Mercury Prize nomination, and her teaching books 'Piano World' have been hailed as 'worthy of the new millennium'. She is also Artistic Director of the Bath International Music Festival. In this course she guides you through Messiaen's monumental 'Vingt Regards sur L'Enfant-Jesus', sharing the insight, technique and interpretive imagination you need to bring one of the great works of the piano repertoire to life. read more

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